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		<title>By: Ruth Turner</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-20598</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruth Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I second Brandi. Thanks for sharing your (and your mom's) story, Diane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I second Brandi. Thanks for sharing your (and your mom&#8217;s) story, Diane.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi H.</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-20239</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Diane, for sharing your story.  I thank God for His patience in chipping away at my obstinance.  I am so sorry for the loss of your mother.  May God bless you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Diane, for sharing your story.  I thank God for His patience in chipping away at my obstinance.  I am so sorry for the loss of your mother.  May God bless you.</p>
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		<title>By: diane l. vaughan</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-20075</link>
		<dc:creator>diane l. vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandi, your words, "I look forward to a day when I can see the fences as protective, not restrictive" tugged at my heart.  I well remember those same feelings and I well remember one of the things the Lord used to help me see those fences as protective.  Granted, the Lord is indeed a personal God and He uses circumstances in one life that He may not use in the same manner in another's life.  I have shared what I would like to share with you now with others who have also wrestled with the issue of submission - wrestled in the sense of desiring it but yet still a bit leery.  Of course, we must first understand that submission is something that God commands of wives.  It isn't a suggestion.  Thus our obedience from the heart is what God is after.  But He is so good and so kind and opens our eyes to understanding.  And while we would love it if God would always explain things clearly to us, sometimes things are left mysterious and that is His prerogative too.  When He does grant understanding we must realize that something is deeper here - He is not just after our obedience for the sake of obedience.  His lovingkindness is being made known to us.  He loves us and He is demonstrating this great love by teaching us how we can live a blessed life in a fallen world.  What He can redeem and use for His glory is simply another story of His ongoing amazing grace.

I grew up with a mother who had epilepsy.  It was an intense disease and her seizure activity seemed unmanagable though many treatments were tried again and again.  Naturally, you can imagine that any child would be frightened when seeing a seizure from their mother.  It created a lot of difficulty in our home.  It created a lot of tension between my folks.  My mother wasn't allowed to do many things that are on the normal "to do list" for busy wives and mothers.  She wasn't to cook, iron, or drive and she had to wear a helmit on her head when she walked around.  But oh, how she just wanted to be a normal wife and mother.  It was what she was created to do.  But since her safety was of great concern to my dad and her physician she wasn't to do certain things and she definitely was to wear her helmit.  Yes, my dear mother struggled in the area of submission too, especially when it came to wearing her helmit.  When dad would catch her not wearing it, well, it got a little loud in the house.  I remember the day he told her that if she wouldn't wear her helmit she would end up in a situation she wouldn't want to be in.  His exact words being, "you'll end up in a coma in some nursing home."

Shortly there after, my mother fell during a seizure.  She wasn't wearing her helmit and suffered great intercranial hemorrhaging. After three years of being in a coma, she finally passed away in a nursing home bed.  I share her poignant story, because it is now my glory.  I came to understand that there is blessing, protection and life in submission.  I share her story not to dishonor her, but because I believe this is what she would want me to do.  How often do we mess up and God in His mercy redeems our messes and then condescends to still use us?  I often wonder if my mom would've heeded my dad's wishes, if she would still be here - to tell her own story, with a much different ending!  I was 16 years old when she died.  I was the fourth of five children she birthed.  And we all miss her dearly.

We never truly do know what consequences may befall us when we go our own way.  And this story isn't meant to breed fear.  But one thing is certain, the fences God places around our lives exist for our good.  With every stake God pounds in the ground He is sending a very loud message - "I love you and thus I cannot but desire to bestow blessings untold upon you."  Perfect love does indeed cast out fear.  Brandi, you are loved by Him and I am praying that you begin to revel in the joy of being fenced  in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandi, your words, &#8220;I look forward to a day when I can see the fences as protective, not restrictive&#8221; tugged at my heart.  I well remember those same feelings and I well remember one of the things the Lord used to help me see those fences as protective.  Granted, the Lord is indeed a personal God and He uses circumstances in one life that He may not use in the same manner in another&#8217;s life.  I have shared what I would like to share with you now with others who have also wrestled with the issue of submission - wrestled in the sense of desiring it but yet still a bit leery.  Of course, we must first understand that submission is something that God commands of wives.  It isn&#8217;t a suggestion.  Thus our obedience from the heart is what God is after.  But He is so good and so kind and opens our eyes to understanding.  And while we would love it if God would always explain things clearly to us, sometimes things are left mysterious and that is His prerogative too.  When He does grant understanding we must realize that something is deeper here - He is not just after our obedience for the sake of obedience.  His lovingkindness is being made known to us.  He loves us and He is demonstrating this great love by teaching us how we can live a blessed life in a fallen world.  What He can redeem and use for His glory is simply another story of His ongoing amazing grace.</p>
<p>I grew up with a mother who had epilepsy.  It was an intense disease and her seizure activity seemed unmanagable though many treatments were tried again and again.  Naturally, you can imagine that any child would be frightened when seeing a seizure from their mother.  It created a lot of difficulty in our home.  It created a lot of tension between my folks.  My mother wasn&#8217;t allowed to do many things that are on the normal &#8220;to do list&#8221; for busy wives and mothers.  She wasn&#8217;t to cook, iron, or drive and she had to wear a helmit on her head when she walked around.  But oh, how she just wanted to be a normal wife and mother.  It was what she was created to do.  But since her safety was of great concern to my dad and her physician she wasn&#8217;t to do certain things and she definitely was to wear her helmit.  Yes, my dear mother struggled in the area of submission too, especially when it came to wearing her helmit.  When dad would catch her not wearing it, well, it got a little loud in the house.  I remember the day he told her that if she wouldn&#8217;t wear her helmit she would end up in a situation she wouldn&#8217;t want to be in.  His exact words being, &#8220;you&#8217;ll end up in a coma in some nursing home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shortly there after, my mother fell during a seizure.  She wasn&#8217;t wearing her helmit and suffered great intercranial hemorrhaging. After three years of being in a coma, she finally passed away in a nursing home bed.  I share her poignant story, because it is now my glory.  I came to understand that there is blessing, protection and life in submission.  I share her story not to dishonor her, but because I believe this is what she would want me to do.  How often do we mess up and God in His mercy redeems our messes and then condescends to still use us?  I often wonder if my mom would&#8217;ve heeded my dad&#8217;s wishes, if she would still be here - to tell her own story, with a much different ending!  I was 16 years old when she died.  I was the fourth of five children she birthed.  And we all miss her dearly.</p>
<p>We never truly do know what consequences may befall us when we go our own way.  And this story isn&#8217;t meant to breed fear.  But one thing is certain, the fences God places around our lives exist for our good.  With every stake God pounds in the ground He is sending a very loud message - &#8220;I love you and thus I cannot but desire to bestow blessings untold upon you.&#8221;  Perfect love does indeed cast out fear.  Brandi, you are loved by Him and I am praying that you begin to revel in the joy of being fenced  in.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandi H.</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19703</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I left out:
None of my resistance is based on a rejection of the work with which I am currently privileged.  I love being at home with my children, I enjoy keeping and improving my home, providing a restful environment and meals to be savored.  I find it easy to honor my husband.  I made the choice to leave my career for home, and I make it again every day.  I would not trade one day with these babies for what I had at work.
I guess I'm a bit like my 15 month old, who is obsessed with the kitchen cabinets that are off-limits.  Or my three year old, who just wants to know why. It's nice to hear that it does get easier.  Thanks, everyone, for all the encouragement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I left out:<br />
None of my resistance is based on a rejection of the work with which I am currently privileged.  I love being at home with my children, I enjoy keeping and improving my home, providing a restful environment and meals to be savored.  I find it easy to honor my husband.  I made the choice to leave my career for home, and I make it again every day.  I would not trade one day with these babies for what I had at work.<br />
I guess I&#8217;m a bit like my 15 month old, who is obsessed with the kitchen cabinets that are off-limits.  Or my three year old, who just wants to know why. It&#8217;s nice to hear that it does get easier.  Thanks, everyone, for all the encouragement.</p>
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		<title>By: Billie</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19665</link>
		<dc:creator>Billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19665</guid>
		<description>Brandi, we must have been writing at the same time.  :)  It is all very humbling.  But since I also grew up believing in Darwinian evolution (another interesting facet of my upbringing!) I've had quite a bit of experience in this "humbled by God" department!  (and continue to experience it regularly...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandi, we must have been writing at the same time.  <img src='http://femina.reformedblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  It is all very humbling.  But since I also grew up believing in Darwinian evolution (another interesting facet of my upbringing!) I&#8217;ve had quite a bit of experience in this &#8220;humbled by God&#8221; department!  (and continue to experience it regularly&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Billie</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19644</link>
		<dc:creator>Billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monica,  You're most welcome!  Your words were so familiar to my lips, so I thought you could use the same reminder I need when that's going on!

Kamelda, what a beautiful picture!  It's like a pas de deux!  I LOVE dance analogies!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monica,  You&#8217;re most welcome!  Your words were so familiar to my lips, so I thought you could use the same reminder I need when that&#8217;s going on!</p>
<p>Kamelda, what a beautiful picture!  It&#8217;s like a pas de deux!  I LOVE dance analogies!  <img src='http://femina.reformedblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Brandi H.</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19643</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19643</guid>
		<description>Thanks again, Billie.  You do understand! 

It's not exactly that I think the men get the plum role.  It's mostly that I don't like being thought incapable of, well...much of anything.  I am a physician.  (Housewife by trade...long story). So, yes, I can hunt and gather, and educate. I was pretty good at it, back in the day. I don't know about protection: I'm not much of a fighter (Billie, though....I wouldn't mess with a Marine!) but I can write a check to the security system guy.  I don't even find it comforting to know that my husband would have to take the rap for my mistakes.  That makes me feel like a child.

I'm not defending this; I believe it is sinful pride.  I am trying to overcome it; that's why i'm on this blog and thinking and praying about these issues. I look forward to a day when I can see the fences as protective, not restrictive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again, Billie.  You do understand! </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not exactly that I think the men get the plum role.  It&#8217;s mostly that I don&#8217;t like being thought incapable of, well&#8230;much of anything.  I am a physician.  (Housewife by trade&#8230;long story). So, yes, I can hunt and gather, and educate. I was pretty good at it, back in the day. I don&#8217;t know about protection: I&#8217;m not much of a fighter (Billie, though&#8230;.I wouldn&#8217;t mess with a Marine!) but I can write a check to the security system guy.  I don&#8217;t even find it comforting to know that my husband would have to take the rap for my mistakes.  That makes me feel like a child.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending this; I believe it is sinful pride.  I am trying to overcome it; that&#8217;s why i&#8217;m on this blog and thinking and praying about these issues. I look forward to a day when I can see the fences as protective, not restrictive.</p>
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		<title>By: kamelda</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19637</link>
		<dc:creator>kamelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandi said: "There really are no perfect analogies. The military one helps, but the private still has the opportunity to become sergeant eventually, if he works hard, is smart, etc."

I think it is hard in our society for a Christian woman to totally reject the world's philosophy that leadership/submission as positions in the abstract are merit based because everywhere we turn we see that being entrusted with leadership does in fact have a lot to do with at least perceived merit.  The only adequate analogy I know of is the submission of God the Son to the Father.  He has shown that the place of submission has nothing to do with substance, and ennobled it with His Deity forever.  There is no way God can be superior to God.  It was not an arrangement of merit.  It was an arrangement of willing love in the Godhead, to accomplish the Divine will.  So we are accomplishing in our creative order the Divine will.  I think it's more like a dance than a job.  Is leading 'superior'?  How could it be said to be so -- it's one kind of movement, juxtaposed against an equally significant and necessary movement from someone else.  Both together make beauty and order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandi said: &#8220;There really are no perfect analogies. The military one helps, but the private still has the opportunity to become sergeant eventually, if he works hard, is smart, etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think it is hard in our society for a Christian woman to totally reject the world&#8217;s philosophy that leadership/submission as positions in the abstract are merit based because everywhere we turn we see that being entrusted with leadership does in fact have a lot to do with at least perceived merit.  The only adequate analogy I know of is the submission of God the Son to the Father.  He has shown that the place of submission has nothing to do with substance, and ennobled it with His Deity forever.  There is no way God can be superior to God.  It was not an arrangement of merit.  It was an arrangement of willing love in the Godhead, to accomplish the Divine will.  So we are accomplishing in our creative order the Divine will.  I think it&#8217;s more like a dance than a job.  Is leading &#8217;superior&#8217;?  How could it be said to be so &#8212; it&#8217;s one kind of movement, juxtaposed against an equally significant and necessary movement from someone else.  Both together make beauty and order.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19630</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billie, I agree with your response to me.  I hadn't realized this before, because, as you said, usually I agree with my husband.  Thanks for reminding me that agreement does no necessarily equal submission.  Through this post and confession to both God and my husband yesterday, my heart is much quieter on this subject today.  Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billie, I agree with your response to me.  I hadn&#8217;t realized this before, because, as you said, usually I agree with my husband.  Thanks for reminding me that agreement does no necessarily equal submission.  Through this post and confession to both God and my husband yesterday, my heart is much quieter on this subject today.  Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Billie</title>
		<link>http://femina.reformedblogs.com/2007/10/24/job-assignments/#comment-19620</link>
		<dc:creator>Billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandi,  I "stalk" this site, too!  Every chance I get!  That passage (it was Eustace) was so good, when my husband read it to our family, he stopped for a whole minute just to soak it in and then afterward said, "Oh!  That was good!" before reading again!

Claire, when you've been brought up with a femenist mindset (which really serves to make women less feminine and more masculine, ironically) that's exactly what you want.  Learning those wonderful truths is refreshing and a blessing, once you can accept them with out anger or hurt, but that certainly didn't come immediately for me.  It was a long, painful, lesson years before it became a beautiful thing to embrace.  I could tell that tale, but this isn't my blog, and I talk too much as it is!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandi,  I &#8220;stalk&#8221; this site, too!  Every chance I get!  That passage (it was Eustace) was so good, when my husband read it to our family, he stopped for a whole minute just to soak it in and then afterward said, &#8220;Oh!  That was good!&#8221; before reading again!</p>
<p>Claire, when you&#8217;ve been brought up with a femenist mindset (which really serves to make women less feminine and more masculine, ironically) that&#8217;s exactly what you want.  Learning those wonderful truths is refreshing and a blessing, once you can accept them with out anger or hurt, but that certainly didn&#8217;t come immediately for me.  It was a long, painful, lesson years before it became a beautiful thing to embrace.  I could tell that tale, but this isn&#8217;t my blog, and I talk too much as it is!  <img src='http://femina.reformedblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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